The Achilles Heel of Atheism

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Description: This is an ontological proof of God's existence discovered by Norman Malcolm that is immune to Kant's criticism. 1. If God does not exist, his existence is logically impossible (because by definition God is eternal and independent so He cannot come into being or be caused to come into being). 2. If God does exist, his existence is logically necessary (because He cannot have come into existence [see above] or cease to exist, for if he did, he would be limited, and by definition God is unlimited). 3. Either God's existence is logically impossible or it is logically necessary. 4. If God's existence is logically impossible, then the concept of God is self-contradictory. 5. The concept of God is not self-contradictory. (It is impossible to conceptualize the self-contradictory) 6. Therefore, God's existence is logically necessary. 7. Therefore, God exists. Norman Malcolm, "Anselm's Ontological Arguments," Plantinga, The Ontological Argument, p.141-147.
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synonys ::: Favorites No, but do you understand the difference in what you said? A claim about god requires a posteriori knowledge, inductive reasoning. A claim about square circles requires a priori knowledge, deductive reasoning because all the premises are known. In fact, you don't even have to consider it negative because it is only possible for a circle to be round, by definition. To claim otherwise is nonsense. 07-08-23 20:06:46 _____________________________________________________
BAAWAKnight ::: Favorites There is no difference in what I said. We're looking at what god is claimed to be from the standpoint of logical sense--criticizing the definition. That's a priori. 07-08-23 21:51:45 _____________________________________________________
redheadfo847 ::: Favorites awesome video 07-08-23 18:55:37 _____________________________________________________
XXJESSEDXX ::: Favorites "a day is but a thousand years in the eyes of god"or something like that,therefore making seven days of earths creation a potential metaphor. 07-08-22 22:14:33 _____________________________________________________
Bridgerboy ::: Favorites A perfect Island that no-one could get to is a self contradictory concept, and since "It is impossible to conceptualize the self-contradictory" this island must exist. So where is the island at? 07-08-22 18:02:39 _____________________________________________________
Bridgerboy ::: Favorites Consider for instance the perfect Island. In the perfect Island everyone would be happy and live in peace, there would be plenty to sustain us and no-one would have any problems and misery would not exist. And part of this Island's perfection would be that we should be able to get to it and live on it or at least experience it's perfection otherwise it would be limited in the fact that it's not accessible to everyone. 07-08-22 18:02:06 _____________________________________________________
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Bridgerboy ::: Favorites So you are saying God has to exist because God is perfect and part of being perfect is existing? But our human perception of perfection is limited by our understanding of what it is to be perfect. So what if the concepts of perfection are relative or they are different from what humans perceive as perfect? Then God is not necessary. 07-08-22 18:01:23 _____________________________________________________
fallrite ::: Favorites The argument is flawed, here's why: 1. ~God -> Impossible 2. God -> Necessary 3. Impossible v Necessary 4. Impossible -> Self-contradictory 5. ~Self-contradictory 6. ~Impossible (from 4 and 5) 7. Necessary (from 3 and 6) 8. God (DOES NOT follow from 2 and 7) When P -> Q holds and Q is the case, you can't infer P. 07-08-22 13:00:42 _____________________________________________________
BAAWAKnight ::: Favorites It's not 50/50. You have no evidence, so you have a 0% chance. 07-08-21 23:19:05 _____________________________________________________
BAAWAKnight ::: Favorites Evolution isn't racist,hasn't been disproven, and wasn't the basic concept behind nazi ideology. Many passages in the bible have been shown to be wrong. 07-08-21 23:18:30 _____________________________________________________
dentex1986 ::: Favorites nazi doctrine was based on the idea that nordic europeans,or "aryans" had evolved beyond any other race of people and therefore had a right to rule the world. the HOLY BIBLE teaches that all mankind descended from two people and was created in the image of GOD. which one sounds racist to you? BTW,can you show me any false passages in the bible?? 07-08-22 00:20:19 _____________________________________________________
BAAWAKnight ::: Favorites Nazi doctrine was based on strange ideas that had nothing to do with evolution. The bible teaches that humans were created from dirt, which means that humans are dirt. False passages in the bible? Sure. There was no global flood (geological record shows no flood). No exodus. Hares do not chew cud. Insects do not have 4 legs. Epilepsy is not caused by demons. Earth is not flat (Matt 4:8) 07-08-22 09:12:50 _____________________________________________________
dentex1986 ::: Favorites matt.4:8 says nothing about the earth being flat. it says that satan took CHRIST to the top of a mountain and showed him a vision of all the kingdoms of the world to tempt him.there is evidence of a world wide flood:see kent hovind's lectures on the subject.or Dr. ron wyatt. or Dr.carl baugh. 07-08-22 11:04:55 _____________________________________________________
BAAWAKnight ::: Favorites No, it doesn't say vision. It says showed. Only way to do that is a flat Earth. Kent Hovind, Carl Baugh, and Ron Wyatt are frauds. Even some christians agree. Here's a link for the fraud known as Ron Wyatt tentmaker org/WAR/ 07-08-22 11:47:08 _____________________________________________________
yamaha893 ::: Favorites i think kant admitted this himself. whats the point? 07-08-21 19:11:54 _____________________________________________________
tellnet ::: Favorites go back to sleep .......... 07-08-21 16:58:31 _____________________________________________________
mconn2112 ::: Favorites Balderdash! 07-08-21 15:21:30 _____________________________________________________
bagpiper2005 ::: Favorites I don't believe in evolution either jackass. There is no evidence that there exists a God. Pure and simple. 07-08-21 12:06:24 _____________________________________________________
dentex1986 ::: Favorites "there is no evidence that there exists a god".....well, THERE is evidence that you need an english class! 07-08-21 14:24:55 _____________________________________________________
bagpiper2005 ::: Favorites There's nothing grammatically wrong with that statement. Nothing. 07-08-21 15:50:17 _____________________________________________________